Thursday, March 26, 2009

Domain Squatting

I haven't posted for awhile. I've been somewhat backed up at work after taking nearly two weeks off. I've been saving this post for a few days now, and figured I have a few minutes so I better share.

For those of you who are not familiar with domain name squatting, basically it is the process of buying a domain name, sitting on it, and hoping to make some money from it. I do web design as a side hobby and last week I had a very fun exchange with someone who was doing just this. The email exchanges follow:

Eugene:

Hello, I am Eugene Krassnoff, owner of the web domain: WebDesignerIdaho.com I am currently offering this domain "for sale". Should your organization, have interest in acquiring this domain, please feel free to contact me within 24 hours. Kind Regards, -Eugene 954 709-2937 (I left his contact info in here in case you need
it.)


Me (9:01 AM): (Purely out of curiousity) What is your asking price?

Eugene (9:03 AM): Thank you for your email. My asking price is $199 (paypal). I'm looking forward to hearing from you soon. Kind Regards, Eugene.

Me (9:04 AM): Do you have an appraisal I can see? (Just to test him. This is where it gets good.)

Eugene (9:19 AM): That domain is one of a kind and it is priceless. Only one person can own WebDesignerIdaho.com which gives you instant credabillity. (Yes INSTANT CREDIBILITY!) The domain gets 2,990,000 searches for that exact term on Google. $199 would be a small price to pay for someone who is serious to start a web design business in Idaho.

Me (9:30 AM): I'll take that as a no.

Eugene (1:52 PM): (Obviously no one else responded now that he is coming back to me 4.5 hours later) I'm willing to reduce the price up to $125 for quick sale. If interested, simpy reply within 24 hours.

Me (2:04 PM): Eugene,

You'll be lucky to get $30 for this domain.

1. You lie about the searches for the domain. There are barely 1 million people in Idaho. There is no way this term gets than many searches.
2. This domain is VERY young. A simple whois search does not even show you as the owner on some whois searches as of this morning.
3. There are 100's of other domains that a business would rather use than a long domain like this.

Please study up domain name trades, before trying to make a quick buck. Had you offered this domain to me originally for $40-$50 I may have been interested, but judging your ethics I don't trust you.

By the way, webdesignerutah.com is available. Do you want to buy it from me? It's worth atleast $399. Utah has twice as many people as Idaho.

So today I was thinking, "I wonder if Eugene actually bought that domain." A quick visit to http://www.who.is/ and looky, looky:

Domain Name: webdesignerutah.com
Registrar: Name.com LLC
Expiration
Date: 2010-03-19 20:11:54
Creation Date: 2009-03-19 20:11:54

Name
Servers:
ns1.parked.com
ns2.parked.com

REGISTRANT CONTACT INFO
Eugene Krassnoff
Eugene Krassnoff
4 north fed hwy
Dania, FL
33004
USPhone: +1.9547092937
Email Address: krassnoff@yahoo.com


All I have to say is TOO FUNNY.

3 comments:

KO Websites said...

Thanks for the info. I own a web design and SEO company in the San Francisco Bay area and got contacted by the same guy. Did a search on the phone number on google and your blog came up. I like your responce. Good story!

For me it's tempting to get the domain, because it's worth it for me. But if he's giving bad data/info, there is no way I trust him to go through the transfer hassle. Thank you for saving me $200.
Ken O'Donnell
http://www.KO-Websites.com

admin said...

Wow We run:
Rank On Top Internet marketing and also Host it Planet.com located in Minneapolis and got contacted by the same guy. Did a search on the phone number on google and your blog came up.

"Hello,

I am Eugene, owner of the web domain:

WebDevelopmentMinneapolis.com

I am currently offering this domain "for sale".
Should your organization, have interest in acquiring this domain, please feel free to contact me within 24 hours.

Kind Regards,

-Eugene

954 709-2937"

We can only laugh,

Thanks for posting.

Troy C.
www.rankontoponline.com
www.hostitplanet.com

Eelco said...

By the way, Eugene took your advice. WebdesignerUtah.com is now his, too.

He has now moved on to cities. I just got the email to buy websitedesignmemphis from him. Haven't run the whois yet...

I'm sure he's making money!

Eelco
www.van-wijk.net